I know that I am a human being from Africa, just like the people of Europe. The word N is not the right word for a fellow human being. It can also cause the person to go on depression. When you get out of the road and somebody sees you and calls you that word, it means that person is reducing you to that level of second-class human being. It's a little bit difficult and complicated to handle but we have to try. Wir müssen versuchen. Guten Morgen, Frau Gloria und guten Morgen, Bride. Sie sind willkommen im Programm der Black Community Oberösterreich. Unsere Zuschauer und Zuhörer, das ist die Black Community Oberösterreich. Wir sind gerade jetzt mit dem Thema Rassismus und N-Wort. Was macht denn dieses Wort mit den Menschen dunklerer Hautfarbe? Wie geht es denen, wenn sie mit diesem Wort konfrontiert sind? Und was wünschen sie sich es gibt so viele beschreibungen von menschen die dunklere pigment haben oder hautfarbe haben viele nennen die people of color viele nennen sie schwarz andere nennen sie menschen mit dunklerer hautfarbe und viele anderes oft das ist es so dass die worte den wir benutzen eine viel effekt an der personen die die empfänger diese worte sind ohne dass wir das wissen und da viele menschen mit dunklerer haut weil wir meistens mit diese ausgrenzende haltung in der gesellschaft konfrontiert sind haben wir entschlossen in der community mit den leute überhaupt fragen wie geht es euch die gloria habe ich vorhin erwähnt die gloria ist zuständig für die frauen und die jugendabteilung der black community ist das richtig breit gehört auch die gruppen von afrikanern, die unsere Arbeit schätzen und auch mithelfen wollen, dass die Welt da draußen unsere Anliegen und unsere Stimme hören. Gloria, ich fange mit dir an. Hast du einmal oder überhaupt in der ganzen Zeit, wo du hier lebst, mit dem Wort N-Wort konfrontiert? Bist du einmal mit dem konfrontiert? Ja, schönen guten Morgen. Das N-Wort, was für mich wirklich neu ist als N-Wort, habe ich schon öfters, wirklich öfters damit konfrontiert. Die aktuellste bei mir war eigentlich gestern in der Früh in meinem Umgebung, bringe ich meinen Sohn in die Schule. Bei der Ampel bei uns, es gab zwei Frauen bei der Ampel. Und wir haben wirklich Abstand gegeben, ganz normal. Die anderen zwei waren auch mit Abstand. Und drehen sie eine alte Dame um, sieht sie mich, sie hat gesagt, scheiß Neger, du Huren. Und ja, also erster Blick hat mich irgendwie schockiert, aber ich konnte gar nicht reagieren, weil ich habe meinen Sohn mit. Dann denke ich mir, okay, aber sie hat nicht so ganz in Ordnung ausgeschaut. Ich denke mir, okay, ist es egal, der Mensch muss sich schauen. Ja, einfach ignoriert. Dann war die Ampel drin, sind wir über die Straße gegangen. Sie gibt nicht auf, sie hat nur immer gesagt, sie verfüllt mich immer wieder. Sie rennt nach mir, die sind überall und ein scheiß Negerin. Ich denke mir, okay, also ehrlich zu sagen, mir ist wirklich nie gut gegangen. Dieser Moment war für mich irgendwie, was heißt hier für ein Problem? Aber die Leute rund um mich haben geschaut. Ich habe nicht reagiert. Ich habe versucht, wirklich zu ignorieren, wegen meinem Sohn, den ich mit mir habe. Und mein Sohn hat aber gefragt, was hast du jetzt getan? Warum gehst du auf die los? Dann habe ich gesagt, weißt du, es ist so, manche Leute sind nicht glücklich mit ihrem Leben und die legen einfach los auf jeden, wie andere auf der Straße. Also ich habe gesagt, wie du die Dame gesehen hast, wie sie ausgeschaut hat, sie werden in dieser Erde gar nicht gebraucht. Sie ist einfach frustriert und das ist ihr Problem. Das geht mir nicht an, wir machen unseren Weg und fertig. Und er hat gesagt, wieso redest du mit ihr? Und ich habe gesagt, was soll ich mit solchen Menschen reden? Es bringt gar nichts, weil sie selber unzufrieden mit ihrem Leben ist. Sie ist einfach einversüchtet, dass wir da leben und ich kann es nicht ändern. Eine habe ich gesagt, sie gehört in den Müll, bitte einfach weiter vorne gehen und in den Müll reinschmeißen, weil sie wird nicht gebrochen, diese Erde. Und so circa 50 Meter vorwärts habe ich drei Kinder, die ich kenne, von einer Familie getroffen. Wir treffen uns immer wieder auf diesem Weg. Sie geht in die Schule. Hat mein Sohn wieder gesagt, die drei Arme, sie wird die Frau wieder bei der Haltestelle treffen. Die sind aber Kinder. Da ist mir wirklich bewusst, was ist mir, wenn die Frau wirklich mit diesen drei kleinen Kindern jetzt in so einer Art und Weise reden, wie wir mit der Situation umgehen. Da ist mir dieser ganze Gedanke im Kopf, die ganze Zeit. Und ich habe nur ihm gesagt, vielleicht werden sie es mit denen nicht machen. Oder die Leute sind eh bei der Haltestelle, sie werden die Kinder beteiligen. Ich glaube nicht. Lass das jetzt, gehen wir in die Schule. Beim Heimkommen nach der Schule habe ich dieselbe Frau auf der Landstraße wieder getroffen. Da hat sie nicht mehr gesagt, sie hat dann wirklich riesengroßen Erstand mir gegeben, sie nur so geschaut die ganze Zeit. Dann habe ich mir gedacht, okay, vielleicht ist sie jetzt wieder normal. Sie ist draufgekommen, dass sie jemandem wehgetan hat. Sie hat gar nicht reagiert, aber das war gestern. Also mehrmals habe ich schon diese Situation erlebt, wo ich im Bus zum Beispiel, du stehst auf, du merkst, eine erwachsene Person oder eine ältere Person, du stehst auf, damit die Person ein Blatt kriegt und du sitzt. Für die ist es egal, sie wird sagen, ich sitze nicht dort, wo ein Neger gesessen hat. Das gibt es so oft. Ja, ich weiß nicht, welcheov Koller oder keine Ahnung. Ich weiß, dass ich ein Mensch bin von Afrika, genau wie die Menschen von Europa. Wieso werden wir immer wieder so beschreiben? Ich weiß nicht, keine Ahnung, wo das liegt und kann auch nicht sagen. Aber gut, Dankeschön. breit sie hat gerade erzählt was sie erlebt hat gestern ja nicht vorgestern geht davon auch aus das bevor gestern vor vorgestern schon einiges schon auch im wege erlebt hat wie geht's dir mit dem wort bist du auch einmal mit dem konfrontiert? Weil einige Leute sagen, ja eigentlich, der insistiert nicht, aber mich hat noch nie jemand damit angesprochen. Wie geht es bei dir? Good morning. Actually I have not experienced that on my own. Although the the word in is not the right word for a fellow human being because we are all one when it comes to down to the creation of God we are one, one body so we need to respect each other but there are certain people group of people and the first people are those people who respect who understand the feeling because when you call someone for instance you call someone nigger, you responsible and question God, and question their self, if they are human or not. And it can also cause the person to go on depression, whereby she can go around here or she can go around mad or start thinking, where am I from? So the other second group are those groups that don't care. They use the word and because they feel that they are the first and the black, which is the color of people, they are the last. But in the situation of this is that we should, I'm encouraging others, and those who are using the word N, they should be mindful with their words. the word in, they should be mindful with their words. And because when you share somebody or encourage somebody and welcome somebody into the society, you have to also make that person to feel good, to understand the life, the situation of Australia and all that. Because it does not bring a good image or be a good understanding to the society. And that's why the word end is not a proper word for everyone. I don't have a number of experience that, but I know people who experienced that, some have come to me and asked me, how did I feel? But what I feel is that it is not good for a fellow human being to call someone with the word aim, because Because it shows the lust of that person and also makes the person to feel unwelcome. Because we are one, we are one body, we love each other. It doesn't matter whether you're black or white or green, we are all the same. So we should learn to love one another and accept one another it is I'm very happy because I was thinking before now that almost every black person must have experienced directly this confrontation with the n-word and word I'm happy to hear that you have personally not experienced it which is also good but at the same time you have indirectly experienced it when you hear your friends or your relatives or colleagues have experienced it and that they feel bad. It was also nice that you mentioned that those words are very hurting. They can hurt somebody. They can make somebody feel less valued. It pushes, it devalues the individual. Because till now, that word has been used in a bad connotation it has nothing to do with anybody I remember when I was a student at a Kepler University we are discussing I asked somebody to give me something he just told me hey give my rule it's been nicht dein nigga so I couldn't understand what that meant then because my language wasn't as big as much as big as it is now to understand okay ich bin nicht der nigger that bedeutet that means for me i'm not your servant i'm not your slave or i'm not your dinner and so sort of that means when you get out of the road and somebody sees you and calls you that word it means that person is reducing you or subjecting you to that level of second-class human being appreciate your contribution I'll go back to glory again now you have experienced it yourself um when if it was not directly on you but it was directly on somebody else just like it was directed on you people we are watching and they didn't say anything and kept quiet if you were there and it was used on some other person, how would you react? So, my reaction would be, I would try to look at the face of the person to see the reaction or the feeling of that person, the mood of the person. Actually, not everybody can take that or accept that. I've seen that several times too, where people, they get angry immediately when they're being addressed that way. It's also not their fault. When I try to go close to the person and make that person understand to calm down, you can change such an individual that just use language like that for you. You can change the person and make that person understand to calm down you can change such an individual that just use language like that for you you can change the person but all you can do is for you to kind of don't be upset don't make the person spoil your day don't let your day go down because of language one has used try to put your mind together and carry on with your day it's going to continue like that try to be strong try to be used to retry to ignore it try not taking it personal anymore because i experience that really times with a number if i think about that how many times i experienced that all my life in austria if i have to take it personal if i would take it personal maybe I wouldn't have be standing here talking today I just have to learn to live with it my greatest surprise in the whole thing is if you meet somebody like that maybe about 100 or 200 meters later you meet just an opposite of that person somebody who is very hard open for you, lovely, ready to discuss, ready to listen to you. So I try to encourage myself with the positive aspect of it. So if someone was experiencing it in my presence, I would try to speak to the person to take it easy. I hope I'm right in that sense. Thank you. To the same question, how would you react? Take for example now, you are enjoying with your colleagues and somebody comes and says, hey nigger, what are you people doing here? How would you guys react? For me, I would not much react to that, but the only thing is that I will just ignore him, the person. রেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরেরে� if it's is there is directly to my friend the best way is for me to encourage he or she that we know who we are we know where we are from we know that now i want to bring it back again too we know because god create us so we are human so that that's because of that, that someone say, oh, you are in. It does not, for me, it does not take anything from me. It doesn't move me. But all I could say is to ignore the person and move on with my life. Because the same way I would encourage my friend and said move on don't mind him move on you know who you are focus on your life focus on your goal and and make sure that you don't rehearse or you don't put yourself in that position so just put your focus and go on. Because people are there to discourage you. People are there to use that word for you. But it's just for you to focus and ignore it. Okay. That's a very wonderful advice. I hope so many people out there could keep their nerves and be quiet. Take, for example, you see a white man. Yes. And you address him and say, Shwine out. How do you think that person would react? If we react badly, if we react badly, but it also depends on the individuals. If that person reacts that way, I know it will feel bad because they like it this is what you use I understand that but the other thing is that we also if just such a people like that we should encourage them the only encouragement is is true love because you have to pass true love and pass love and encouraging love also in the scripture of the Bible and let them know that they are they are different and they are what God called them to be so in that position are we encouraged the person definitely and find some reason that he's not a nigger, but he's a mother dart and he's born to reign. He said that if you call a white person or light skinned person, shrine held. Pork collar, pork pitch. yeah pork color pork yeah that a person will be mad at you and may even call the police do you think if a black fellow of people people of color is being addressed that way that he calls the police do you think they will get attention well I don't think so. The police is not going to get your attention for that, and they, I believe they are not interested in that. That's not what they're fighting for, even. That's the reason we, I personally, I have to learn to calm down first, to think about it like I did yesterday. It really went deeply in me. It holds me a lot because I had my little son with me. I wasn't happy about that. Most especially when the three children came and my son said, so what about if the woman were attacked them also with the same language? Like I said, I really realized that immediately, oh God, poor children. But I have to give an answer also immediately. And the other way around, if I should call the police because someone has called me a name like that, I don't think there's a reason enough to call the police. Because police, there's no proof. But if a light-skinned person calls, do you think the police will react? I also don't think so. Because I don't think it's a reason enough to call the police. I think the police has got a better job to do because if a white person would call me any name now, I don't have a proof, number one. The person has called whatever he wants to call, called whatever name he wants to call, and left me there with my anger. Likewise, if a black person would call a white person any name, the same thing would happen. The black person would leave. Even if you call the police, there's no proof, nothing. I don't believe the police, they're involved in things like that. nothing I don't believe the police they're involving things like that actually these are something I have to learn myself to be able to control my emotion this time around if it happens I know what to do calm down don't let your day be horrible or spoiled because of one thing or the other it's a little bit difficult and complicated to handle but but we have to try. Okay. That's a very wonderful advice. And I think at the moment, we'll try to stop it so far. I thank you so much for your contributions. And I hope people will listen to this. I will see from this perspective that most often when such words fall, you ignore the person who produces it. You know that if from the, there's what they say, out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. So if somebody produces that, you could know, you could immediately value that person and know, oh my God, this person is below my value. There is no need exchanging words with him. You ignore him and move your way. That's exactly what you guys have picked now. That's very, very wonderful. And that's a concluding word. Thank you for your time. And I wish you still also keep your nerves so strong. If you go out there and people get you with this name. Thank you so much. You're welcome. Thank you.