Welcome to PHTV. My name is Natasha Hoffmann and these are my special guests from Germany. Hello my name is Finja and I'm from Paderborn. Hello my name is Sophie and I'm also from Paderborn and thank you for having us. So how have you been doing in Linz? It's going great it's our last weeks so yeah. Yeah I can only agree to Finja the last weeks have been going very well and yeah now it's only two weeks left and I'm really looking forward to going home as well. So I'm a student from Amsterdam and I study to become an English teacher. What are you currently studying? I'm studying to become a teacher for special education. Yeah I'm studying English and pedagogy to become a secondary school teacher and I'm nearly finished. So last semester here in Linz and then I'm ready to become a teacher. So let's talk about a movie that we've been making in a course with Christian Kogler. He has been teaching us a lot and we've made a movie about a robot. Could you tell us something more about the movie? I don't want to say much about the plot because you're going to see it. But we thought about a topic we could make a movie about. And we came up with the idea for robot yeah and then we thought about a plot that would make sense well yeah the plot finding was quite interesting I would say because we had a hard time finding out what we want the film to be about and then we decided to throw in a word each person who is part of the movie and then we got three out of the pot that we threw the sheets of papers in and then we got bicycle robot and water and I think that's enough for now to know about the movie and what did you think about the planning? What did you use to make the video with to plan everything? For planning we used the Milanote tool and then we got together, like we all students, and then we talked about the plot and how we want to make our scenes and how the plot would make sense and then we talked about what we should film first because of the light or something like that and then we filmed the scenes so that's what's basically our planning yeah and afterwards we edited the whole movie in the yeah in the PR do you have anything to add sophie uh not really for the planning but i think today we um filmed the movie was pretty nice because we had nice weather for the first time in linz as it felt like that and we had some ice cream and we had a nice time so yeah I think the movie it was fun to make it okay so let's move on and watch the movie and then we're going to talk about it after Thank you. Hey man, did you order the food? Did you order the delivery? I screw third floor. But did you order the food? I screw third floor. Okay. Okay okay okay okay let's go with it here you go man just take it just no just take it it's yours have you never seen food if I did you order error invalid handle six yeah but just you know you have to open like this you have to open it here right just just eat it that's all you have to do right zero so you need to pay the environment did you pay on card or anything you're like say error sharing violation 32 zero five twenty you're gonna have to pay for it since you ordered it right you have you paid before or are you going to pay now like If you ordered it, you need to pay. I want to be like you. Kjell Kjell Nettopp We'll see you next time. Thank you for everyone who has participated in making the movie. But first some questions on what it exactly was. So first of all, what was it exactly about? Yeah, as you can see or as you just saw, it was about a robot who was trying to become a human or to get like human things like emotions and stuff and he just learned from the people around him something like ordering ordering food even if he doesn't really need food to live so that's basically the plot that yeah he wants to become more human than he is well yeah you can basically see it in the elevator scene where he practices the handshake for example or where he tries to take the food journey with the delivery guy and he wants to learn more from the delivery guy he wants to learn how to eat ice cream but yeah it turns out in the end that there are even limits to a robot and that he explodes when he is in touch with water so in the beginning of the movie the delivery guy cycles to the house of the robot right and then we see an elevator scene as you've already explained why was it filmed in the elevator well i'm not sure whether i remember why we decided to do it in the other way i think it's mainly because we were first of all limited concerning our scenes where we could film something and we wanted to stay in the PH. So we decided an elevator would be nice because we had a mirror there where we could film the robot practicing the handshake. And then we had a 360 degree camera up there, which was nice to film it there. And yeah, it was nice to have the elevator door open and close and i think it was a nice tool i would say all right thank you and um in the elevator the delivery guy gives the robot food and is trying to communicate with the robot what is exactly going on What is exactly going on? Yeah, so the robot ordered food because he saw it with the people around him that humans sometimes order food and then he wants to copy that, so he ordered food as well. So the delivery guy comes and just as he was doing with all the other people, he wants to hand the robot the food, but the robot doesn't really know what to do with that so and he he doesn't really know that he has to pay the food and stuff like that so he always says things like third floor and stuff like that which is the things he learned but he doesn't really know how to speak like a human. And with the food, the delivery guy is trying to get him to eat or trying to let him know if he, or rather ask him if he's already paid on the app or paid everything. How did that, like, how did that connect the story? Well I think it shows how humans react to robots if they don't know what to do with the other side that they are talking to because he does not know that the person he is delivering the food to is a robot and so he tries to treat him like a human but obviously it is not working because he is not talking to a human person and so yeah it's I think it shows how he tries to handle a situation which he is overtaxed with and so he tries to do his best to somehow make it work for the other side that he's talking to. So now we've hopefully understand the elevator scene with the delivery guy giving him food, but then we look at them cycling away from the house and the robot running behind him. Why doesn't he also use a bike, for example? Bicycle, like biking is also a thing he can't do or he doesn't know how to ride a bike um so that's the point of the whole scene i guess so um yeah he in the in the elevator the robot always talks about ice cream like he wants to get ice cream because he somehow learned that there is ice cream out there but he doesn't really know what that is or how to eat it or something about it so the delivery guy wants to show the robot how ice cream is working and then they the delivery guy came by bike so he's biking and the robot doesn't have a bike or doesn't know how to ride a bike, so he's going behind him and just running to get the ice cream and to learn how that works. All right, so now we understand the fact that the robot is running behind him instead of having a bicycle himself and trying to cycle. Then my next question would be that the next scene is at the ice cream shop and the robot is just standing there. What is exactly going on? Well again we see a limit to a robot because the robot cannot handle how to eat food, how to take over food. He cannot handle how to ride a bike. He has no bike. And then we see that the robot even cannot order ice cream because he don't know how to have a proper conversation with someone. And so the delivery guy takes over this role and gets the ice cream for the robot. And then they go outside and have the ice cream for the robot and then they go outside and have the ice cream. All right and then the next scene is basically that the robot is trying to understand how to eat the ice cream. So that was filmed at a square and why have you chosen that particular scene for that square? That square was near to the ice cream shop and that would make sense with ice cream. That they have a space where they can learn from each other or the robot can learn from the human. So they have like no more people around them to, yeah,'t know just to distract them right um so that was our like thought about that and then while they're eating the ice cream you can see the robot struggling to eat the ice cream and almost like covering it covering covering his whole face with ice cream. Was that on purpose or do you know anything what the actor meant with that? Well I think we tried somehow to do it on purpose to show how hard it is for a robot to imitate a human being and yeah it's just stressing the fact that the robot is no human being and that there is a difference between human beings and a robot and you cannot yeah compare human beings to robots somehow maybe that stresses the scene okay so now we hopefully understand that the ice cream was also a fact that he was trying to learn from the human being. And then after that, they go to the Danube and they're going to sit at the beautiful stairs, having their feet in the water. One actor, the human then, has his feet in the water. One actor, the human then, has his feet in the water. And we also saw that the robot is trying to imitate the movements that he's making. So why is that? Yeah, again, that the robot wants to learn how to become a human being or to learn things humans are doing. So he always tries to imitate because that's the easiest way for him to learn about human being behavior. So he always tries to imitate the hand movements like showing something and also putting our feet in the water because that's something humans do when the weather is nice. So he also tries to imitate that and that doesn't work out really well. Yes, because the not working out is basically them both exploding, not only the robot but the human as well. Why have you chosen to let them both explode? robot but the human as well why have you chosen to let them both explode well i think that they both explode is just a natural consequence if you sit next to a robot that is made of electricity and that puts his or her feet into the water and then explodes well if you sit right next to the robot it's just your own downfall basically that you sit next to an electronics thing that explodes and then you have the same consequence for you as well. And that shows that we really as humanity have to take care of what we're doing and what we're trying to develop somehow. And because robots are dangerous we have to take care that we do not give them too much power because then we as humans could lose control of the situations and so making the human also explode stresses that we have to take care of our own lives maybe. All right beautifully said I think the message of this movie was that we shouldn't teach a robot how to be human and that we have to figure out the fact that robots are difficult to handle robots are pretty different from us humans so we should basically stay away from that is that right right yeah okay so then moving on we've seen a lot of beautiful things from Linz in the movie and we're all Erasmus students. So my question would be, why Linz? Why not Amsterdam? Why not Berlin? That's kind of easy to answer because our home university doesn't offer a lot of partner universities. So Linz was kind of one of the only options I had actually. So I tried to go to Taiwan, but I planned to go to Taiwan, but that doesn't really work out. So now I'm in Linz. Well, yeah, I have to disappoint you guys too, because it's not the best advertisement for Linz, but for me it was also basically the only option I had, because I'm afraid of flying. So it wasn't possible for me to go somewhere where I have to travel by plane. So Linz was basically a nice option for me to go to and I could travel by train. But since I'm here, I do not regret to be in Linz. So maybe that's a nice thing for you to hear. regret to be in Linz so maybe that's a nice thing for you to hear. Well I'm also a student from Amsterdam and as I said I'm studying to become an English teacher so I've chosen to go to Linz because my family is German so I could understand German and that made it easier with the apartment search, with filling in forms. And it was also a very attractive place to go to because it was a school that is focusing on education and focusing on children, how you teach them. I've learned multiple things with that I can take home with me from the school. So that has already brought me to a closer look for how I want to become a teacher with. Has the school helped you to implement something that you've learned here and you want to take home with? Yeah, definitely. There was a thing called teaching practice, which was the most helpful thing I had in my whole studies, I guess, because at home we don't have a lot of practical teaching in our studies. So here we had a thing where we went to a school like every week for two hours and then we yeah did basically the whole classes there for like two hours with another person so we had to plan the lessons and then we had to do it with the kids and then we reflect on them and we make material and stuff like that. So basically feeling like a real teacher. So that helped me a lot because I wasn't used to that. So I learned a lot about teaching and how I want to be teaching or if I want to be teaching because I wasn't sure about that earlier. And now I'm sure I don't want to do that. But yeah, it helped me a lot with my professional things. Yeah, I can definitely take something home with me too, because we had a lot, or at least I had, huge insight into different subjects. I could choose any subject I wanted to get to know something and that was pretty nice. And I really enjoyed the classes where we learned some teaching strategies, where we learned how to manage our classroom how where we reflected on ourselves how we want to behave as teachers and how we want to be as teachers where our lines what do I want my students to do with me what do I want to do with my students myself and so yeah there's a lot of things you can take home with you I would say and did you have a teacher from ph coming to your university to sort of tell you about the school or tell you about lens uh no not that I know of um so yeah just own research and yeah. So you know about this school because it was on the list and you could pick it up, right? With me it was mainly Niels came to my school in Amsterdam and basically was only for the German department. But I was the one that wanted something else than the UK. So then my school sort of arranged for me to go talk with him and sort of discuss what I would do here. So that was quite interesting, I would say, because I didn't imagine that I actually would come here if it wouldn't be for him telling me how the school was. Yeah, so basically that. And now for the rest of it, how is Linz on its own? Like, have you been traveling a lot? What have you been doing here the last four months? Yeah, at first it was a bit, I needed some time to get used to the city and to the situation and stuff like that but now I really like Linz I think it has a lot to offer yeah and it's it's near to a lot of cities. Like we visited Salzburg, we visited Graz. I'm going to Vienna. And that's always like one and a half hours or two hours maximum to go to these cities. So that's easy to travel to bigger cities. I think to see some natural things, it's sometimes a bit complicated with the trains or buses. You sometimes need a car. That's a bit complicated. But yeah, I really like Linz. I love how they have a lot of sports opportunities. I use them a lot. And yeah. I can agree to you. I also needed my time to get used to be in linz because i'm not used to live in a large city i live in a small town in germany and i really like it there and when i came to linz it was like oh my god it's such a huge city even though it's only 200 000 inhabitants if i'm not wrong but yeah the longer you stay here the more you get used to it and I think the more I spend time here the more I like it because I managed to spend my weekends pretty nice even though traveling to the mountains which I really enjoyed and which was my plan to do here when I came to Linz even though it takes a lot of time sometimes and it costs a lot of money to buy the tickets even though it's worth it I would say and it costs a lot of money to buy the tickets um even though it's worth it i would say and it's just great to see the mountains to see the green grass and the the sea and the mountains yeah just as i said well yeah but still even there are many opportunities in linz that you can do as finja just said. Sit by the Danube, do some sports, meet friends, have a drink and yeah. At least it's possible to do that if it's not raining as it was in April and where we were like oh my god, the weather is a problem here, but now we are starting to get tanned a bit maybe. Yeah for me it was very different I think because coming from Amsterdam it's a lot bigger, it's a lot noisier even though I'm not living in the central. It's still like you can bike everywhere, you can walk everywhere and here it's a bit in the city of Linz yes you can cycle everywhere walk everywhere but you would have to have a car or a train or bus to go everywhere anywhere else I do have a car here so I could travel to the mountains I could hike for a longer period of time. There are quite a lot of buses that you can take to go on hikes and go traveling. Yeah, I think we've like different friend groups. But in the friend group that I'm in, we have a lot of different nationalities with Northern Irish people, with Hungarian people, with Romanian people. So it's very different when we sit around the table and we learn about the different cultures. So that is a very big pro point for the fact that you learn about the different cultures. So that's really cool about Erasmus as well. And yeah, what would you suggest for new Erasmus incoming students where to go to? I would always suggest to get a hobby or to look for a hobby. At least that was the best thing I could do, to look around and to see what I want to do here. For example, I joined a gymnastics club and then I got in touch with a lot of Austrian people. And now I have like some Austrian friends because I met them at the gymnastics club. So that's like a big opportunity to meet the people who are living here and who can give like inside tips or something like that. I wouldn't know of if I wouldn't have talked to them. Yeah, I would also recommend to just be open and try to get to meet not only the Erasmus students, but also students or people who live in Linz who can give you the inside tips and maybe I have a roommate who is from Tyrol so she could give me some tips as well and she said well I can take you here I can take you there we can do this we can do that you can join my friends group and stuff so it's nice sorry to try to get in touch with people who live in lands who are local so that you are not only in your Erasmus bubble, but also get to know the Austrian culture, the Austrian places and stuff. I think I would suggest to go into the mountains, into nature, walk around the city, have a look at your surroundings, also find a hobby. I started to run here around the Danube, which is quite cool because I could see my improvement. I started to run in Amsterdam but that's just a bit hard with everything going on and here it's just quiet and you can feel your surrounding you can feel the nature um what do you most miss of everything at home um definitely the people that's like the biggest problem but um i guess that's the case everywhere you go on erasmus that you're missing like people at home so yeah yeah that's the same with me and I have to say my cousin just got a small puppy and now I really want to go home to meet the puppy and so yeah having family friends dogs cats whatever so seeing your daily life back home is something I miss so to summarize we've been watching the movie The Robot that we've made with Christian Coghlar and I would like to thank him for all of his help for all of his film equipment for everything I would also like to thank Miroslava I'm sorry I don't know your last name but I would like to thank Miroslava. I'm sorry I don't know your last name but I would like to thank you for working in the back of it and using all the buttons you can with all of this and helping Christian as well. So thank you and have a lovely dinner and good night.