Ich begrüße Sie äußerst herzlich hier aus dem Dorf-TV-Studio Linz live zu einer weiteren Sendung von Ukraine aktuell. Der Krieg geht in unverminderter Härte Tag für Tag weiter. Man fragt sich, welche Konditionen, Vereinbarungen, Mechanismen nötig wären, um ihn zu beenden. Entgegen den bis jetzt gelaufenen Ukraine-Aktuell-Sendungen sprechen wir heute nicht über den Krieg und seine Folgen, sondern wir nehmen die Schönheiten des Landes, die Schönheiten der Ukraine, die Kunst, die Kultur, die Musik, die Literatur, die Sprache in den Blick. Und ich freue mich dafür, ganz besondere Gäste zu begrüßen. Die Gäste sind heute drei Damen, drei Damen, die die Ukraine ihre Heimat bezeichnen. Zwei Personen hier bei mir im Studio, eine Person live aus New York hinzugeschaltet. Ich starte mit den Damen hier im Studio. Eine Person live aus New York, hinzugeschaltet. Ich starte mit den Damen hier im Studio. Zu meiner Linken, Olena Salnikova. And I'm now going to switch into English. Wir werden die Sendung auf Englisch bestreiten. Olena Salnikova, she is a teacher for the Ukrainian language and a teacher for the Ukrainian literature. She is here in Austria since 2019 and she lives in Wales, quite near to Linz. I welcome you heartily, Olena. Hello to everyone. Today I want to talk... I'm just going to introduce every person and then I switch to your talk. Sitting next to Olena is Sophia Patsiuk. She is here in Austria for half a year and she lives in Neuhofen, just quite near to Linz. Sofia is a restaurant manager and a very important supporter of the point of Ukraine here in Linz. I welcome you heartily to this round here, Sofia. Thank you. And the third person, she's sitting in New York. She has quite an early morning. And the Dorf TV audience still know her, Irina Portenko. Dear friend of mine, pianist with Kyiv as her home city and living and acting as an artist in New York, I welcome you heartily, Irina. Thank you so much, Karin, Anna, Christian and everybody who is in the studio for having us. This is very important that we are here and speak about what's going on in Ukraine. Thank you. And now, Olena, it's up to you to start with your talk. Today, I want to introduce our culture from the language and literature aspects. First of all, I want to talk about how ancient our motherland is. The first mention of the Ukrainian state was in the middle of 9th century. It was present in foreign sources. The existence of Ukraine, of Kievskaya Rus' was entry in Bertina Chronicles in 839. For example, to Moscow, which was found only in 839 years, Europe only started to know, to get acquainted with the Ukrainian state, with the Kievskaya Rus'. Not every country knows about our motherland, but less than 30 years ago, all of Europe already knew about Ukraine when the Kievan princess Askoldyndir in 866 years attacked 66th year attacked the Constantinople, the Byzantium, and came with 200 ships, approached the shores of Byzantium. Those and other events was described in the first Ukrainian chronicle the tale of past years, as we call it, Povest Manulih Lit. It was completed in Kiev in 11th and early 12th century with a monk, Nestor, and other chroniclers. It's one of the oldest literature monuments in the history of Ukraine and the oldest major chronicle of the Ukrainian language when it became to grow our language. to grow our language. This chronic is described by the Eastern Slavs and princely power, the establishment of Christianity in Kievsko-Rus. It's used a lot of legends and other folk stories in this Povest Manulich Let, if you don't mind I will name it in the region. But unfortunately we lost the origin with such a long story. And we have only some late versions which were rewritten from the origin. In Ipat list from the chronicle of past years, has a distant Ukrainian origin. For example, of Ukrainian phraseology, orthography, the deep Ukrainian vocabulary. And most of the dialect in this chronic was written exactly Ukrainian language, not the old Slovenic language, but Ukrainian language. And the important thing I want to say about the name of Ukraine, when it first was named. name of Ukraine, when it first was named. Officially, the name of Ukraine began to gain popularity in 1425. This year, the Party of Kronik of 1187 was rewritten, and in this chronicle describing the death of Prince Pereyaslav, the name Ukraine was at first related to our state. But I think that such a deep history, not to everyone, but I want to tell about modern Ukrainian language, and I want to tell about Ainate of Ivan Kotlerevsky. This poem was based on A aid of ancient poet Virgili. We call this poem as a base for formation of the new modern Ukrainian literature language, from which goes all literature till our days. In this poem, about 7,000 words were recorded. Such ethnic words, households, presented name of clothes, food, home interior, agriculture implements, folk games, etc. The language of poem is very criticized by a rich synonymy. And in Enid by Ivan Kotlerevsky, there are a very varied group of borrowed words. For example, such a military borrowed vocabulary as army, range, bomb, article, volunteer was used in this poem. And the household borrowed present, read vowel, hood. The high level of variability of this language, as I said previously, is the nature of a new stage for formation, this new modern language. this new modern language. I really can't talk about this very long, really long. But today I really want to introduce to Austrian audience such a great writer and his work as Mikhail Kotsubinsky. great writer and his work as a mihailo kutsubinsky he is born in venice but most of his life he live and work in the hero city chernigiv where i i'm from i'm from chernigiv it's a one of the oldest cities in Ukraine, near Kiev. It was founded in the 7th century. The first mention of Chernigov dates back to 907 years. In the 9th century it became a part of Kievan Rus'. Mikhail Kotsurbinsky was one of most original Ukrainian prose writers. He was one of first in Ukrainian literature who realized the need of reform and direction of modern European prose. He had a lot of interesting works. He traveled a lot. He was a traveler and wrote about all Ukrainian nature. For example, when he was a government official in Bessarabia and Crimea, he created works for a common god on the stone under the minarets. These poems highlight the problem of pest control, which destroyed the vineyards, but these works have much, goes much far beyond the local problem. Evidence of this, the translation, the story for the common good in the Russian magazine Life. After 1901 Mikhail Kotsubinsky's leading genre of short prose becomes a socio-psychologic novel. The good example of this genre in his work is the story Shadow of Forgotten Ancestors. This story is about two young people, Hutsul Ivan and Marichka, which were from the hostel families. which was from the hostile families. And unfortunately, they end tragically for both. Sometimes we call them our Romeo and Julieta, the Hutsul Romeo and Julieta. The story widely conveys Hutsul routine and life with elements of folklore. It includes a lot of mythology. Some of the creatures described by him have no analogy in the mythology of the world. For example, the Chugaister. It's a good forest person creature. He helps people who get lost in woods or fall prey as a mavka. Mavka is a female creature who takes young boys into woods and then they die under various situations. Chugaister like to sit near the fire with people, talk some stories with them. And one more forest creature, it's a Shesnik. It's not positive. It's most like with the description in this story, it was like a forest devil. This story was like a forest devil. So this story was screened by Sergey Porodjanov. Very important that abroad the film was called The Wild Horses on Fire. The Harvard University was at the film to the list of most see for students who once have a highest degree in the in their studies. Music has become one of the main components of film. There are tape, a feature common instrument in the Carpathian. It's a fluid densifca, floyara, goat, trimba and trimbita. I'm going to interrupt you now. Thanks so much, Alina. And you just mentioned this film and those specific instruments. They are typical Ukrainian folklore instruments, right? Sometimes a little bit similar to instruments as we know from folklore, especially the long horn. The lullaby. Yeah. In Switzerland, they have such instrument called alphorn. So that's quite similar. And also this wonderful kind of wooden flutes, similar to the recorder from a classical point of view, in some specific ways. I just want to ask you if it would be possible to hear the Ukrainian language and could you recite some part of the Eneida and could you just please mention again when this so important poem was created. For Aeneida, I really can't name the year because there are a lot of variants. Okay. So, till these days, we couldn't know the year, but it was the 16th century, 16th, 17th century. I want to read the first sentences. зробили з неї скрипту гною. Він взявши торбу, тягу дав, забравши деяких троянців, осмалиних як гіряланців, п'ятами з трою накивав. And here, as I said, a great synonym of his language. It's wonderful for me to hear this language. I always love to hear foreign languages, and especially in your case, I really love to hear it. Just a question that I ask myself that often. Similarities and differences between the Ukrainian and Russian language. The great question. And, you know, for us, as for Ukrainian and other Slovenian languages, we hear the German language. And, for example......... the Netherlands language sounds the same. It's the same with Ukrainian and Russian languages. It's very different grammatic. We have the same words as all Slovenian languages, as Belarus, as Poland, Slovenia, Hungary, Czech. Yeah, we have common words, but it's quite different languages with a different grammatic. I couldn't name them the brothers' languages. For me, it's a very hard Russian grammatic than Ukrainian. And all topics we learn in university, it was very hard for us. We talk Russian, but it's not the same. Okay, I would like to say that these languages are totally different. Firstly because when, how say it, Olena, when in in Kievska Rus' already were church schools and people starting to build something, improving, nobody didn't heard about Moscow, about Moskovia, because it's not only 100 years different, it's more than 800 years of different time. So Ukraine has... Sorry, I'm a bit nervous. I would like to say that Russian language is a dialect of Ukrainian and it's totally different languages. And for example, yes, Slovenian group of languages and it's Polish, Ukrainian, Belarus, West Ruslan language, Czech and a lot of languages. I just saw only one photo where was five words, just of languages, but not with Russian. For example, can I interrupt you? For example, the code of color red. In Ukrainian it's червоный. In Polish, червоный. In Belarusian language it's червоны. In Polish, червоны. In Belarusian language it's червоны. And in Russian it's красный. And there are a lot of such examples. And the most important that Moscow was founded not with the Slovenian prince, not Kyiv-arus prince. It was founded with the Mongolian, the gold Orda. You mentioned now for some time Kiev-Rus. That's what I read just the last days because of course I prepared myself a little bit for today because I'm very interested in those topics. huge, huge field of land that covered nowadays Belarus, Ukraine and Russia. And that in the Middle Ages, it were people from Scandinavia who founded this large region called then Kiev Rus. So that's what I learned and what I read in the history book. It's probably a question of definition. But also the Russian mentality is to say, okay, we were part of this Kiev Rus and we... We were never part of Kiev Rus and and and we we they were never part of Kiev Rus there was uh uh for that time already the Ukraine and the Moskovia Kievsko Rus and Moskovia Moskovia never were the part they had fight with the Ukraine they were occupied the Kievsus, but as a part of Kivskarus, they were never being. Maybe it's a question of definition or how you mention it or how you name it. It's clear that the Ukrainian ethnicity and nationality always wanted to be independent. I think every country wants to be independent. But the interesting thing is that also Putin says, we were founded in the Middle Ages and we are here first. Maybe Irina knows something more to tell us. It's always a question of how a dictatorship reads the history. Another thing that really was very interesting for me, this great person you had, Volodymyr, I think, and he was baptized also in the Middle Ages. And he was baptized. And he was baptized in Chersones on the Crimean Island. And that's also a reason why Putin says, this is a kind of Russian mecca and this belongs to us. It's always a question how you read the history. And what I want to say, a dictatorship knows how to read the history, to pull it on his side. So maybe Irina can tell us some things to that. Irina. Thank you so much. Olena,ena first of all thank you for your presentation i love anita and this is one of my favorite uh works and actually who know whoever knows the language it is very very funny because with the way that author plays with the words it is just it's a very sincere laughter that you experience when you read it, even by yourself. So people can think that there is something not right with you when you're reading, just sitting with the book and laughing out of your heart. But this is true. That's what this piece is. origins and ancestry, it's, Karin, you understand that with all the opinions, your program may take up to three days or more for discussion like this. And there are interpretations and there are the facts. And you mentioned Vladimir. Vladimir was the grandson of Olga, the Princess Olga, and she was a Viking from Vikings. So you're absolutely right. They all came from Scandinavia and the Rus tribe was the Rus tribe people. They were from descendants of Scandinavian, the Vikings who came to the area, who came down from the north. So this is absolutely right. I also was very happy to hear the innate, because it's such a musical sound and it also reminded me to Vergil and I'm a great admirer of the Latin language and of the poems by Vergil and it's really good that you brought this here and that we could hear it and I also could see that Irina loved it a lot and she with her in her mind, she was singing with you. Right? Yes, yes. I love this poem. And I remember we were to learn big part of it by memory. But I also read it many times because my grandfather was a writer. And so I just was immersed in the literature world from the very start of my life. Thank you. Okay, so it's up to you, Irina. I'm happy to hear your talk now to learn more about music and architecture. A little bit of the national identity. I would like to continue the topic of what Ukraine is in many ways, in many aspects of it. And one of them in the famous prayer for Ukraine that I think all world is singing it right now by Mykola Lysenko and Oleksandr Konisky. singing it right now, by Mykola Lysenko and Oleksandr Koneski. We ask for science and knowledge as one of the first things to be given to the people of Ukraine, among all goodness. So please, let's listen to this wonderful video. Субтитры создавал DimaTorzok Choir singing. Дякую. Песня «Счастье» So, this was performed by my wonderful friend and colleague, Julia Yurchak, and her colleagues, Maria Samulyak, Ksenia Bakchalova, and Proskovia Belkina, at St. Catherine's Church in Odessa. And it was performed and recorded, please notice, in March 2022. Very recently. I would like to start with part one of my presentation, which was the education and philanthropy, which always have been the strengths of the national identity and a very important element to the cultural and intellectual development of the Ukrainian people. And it was no matter how it was divided in different times by different nations, always the main element. And it's worth mentioning here the very first higher education institution, the Ostroh Academy, founded by Polish nobleman Wasyl Konstantyn of Ostroh in 1576. He used the land owned by this family for this institution. And later, his niece, Princess of Ostroh, continued the tradition of supporting the academy with the curriculum of seven liberal arts, including grammar, rhetoric, arithmetics, geometry, astronomy, and music. Second higher education, the Academy in Kiev was established by Petro Mohyla shortly after that and through a merge of the two religious institutions in the 17th century, the beginning of 17th century. Even less than a century later, a famous traveler, French traveler, engineer, architect, and a historian, Guillaume Levasseur de Beaupland, traveled in Ukraine in 1648. So please notice we are still in 17th century. And he was surprised to see that literacy was very important feature of most of the Ukrainian communities. Also among peasants, women and children, even in the small villages. The little boys were even learning several foreign languages in their schools of brotherhood. And Boblan published his observation in 1752. So Ukraine, we all already know the map and where Ukraine is and even the little villages and towns. But Ukraine itself is located in the crossroads with the multiple natural resources to offer. And it certainly attracts attention and brings the best, and sometimes, as we can see, the worst of the synthesis of neighboring cultures, sorting out what's right for us with the time. And in my observations, I will concentrate on a few things that have been essential in the cultural development of the Ukrainian national identity and that have been preserved through the centuries. It's architecture and music. And I will also pay special attention to the role of women in all of these aspects. I would like to take a look at a few examples of Ukrainian Baroque style in my native Kyiv. It is a very special architectural style with the lightness and roundness of its shapes, very spacious and ornamented, conveying multiple storylines throughout its painting. And one of my favorite churches in Kiev is St. Andrew's Church, built by the architect Francesco Bartolomeo Rastrelli during the period of 1747 and 1762. The church, by the way, is built on a tricky downhill terrain with an underground river. It is asymmetrical and is supported by an additional two-story structure for its stability. Actually, I do love its character a lot, and it seems to be hovering over the city, bringing joy and uplifting vibes with the way it has been positioned. So I hope you see the picture of the church there. And I would like to move on to the next object that also is one of my favorites in Kiev, and I love to visit it every time I'm there. It's a very vibrant and profound place as well, which is called St. Michael's Golden Dome Cathedral and the Monastery. During the revolution on Maidan Square in 2013 and 14, this cathedral functioned as a hospital, as well as its bells rang in emergency situations during the most tragic moments of its history. Having been dated back to 1108 and 1113 as a starting foundation, it was architected later by Ivan Hryhorovych Barsky later in 1700s. The cathedral withstood invasions up until the 1930s, the 20th century, when it was demolished by the Soviet order. However, during the Ukrainian independence, this beautiful building was restored with the help of architect Lositsky and archeologist Ivakin by the time of 2000 anniversary of the christening of Kiev Rus. The last and the very important contemporary monument, but also in the Ukrainian Baroque style. It's the tallest in Ukraine. It's an independence monument in the very center of my native Kiev. It was created in 2001, so we are in 21st century, by the architect Anatoly Kush. The column and the chapel are also, as I mentioned, representative of Ukrainian Baroque style, and the column was made with a special Italian marble. It features a figurine that symbolizes goddess Oranta from the times before Christianity. She's wearing traditional clothing and holding a gilded rose branch while guarding safety of her and our home. I must mention that in both pre-Christian times and after the role of women, their individual qualities, their strength and will in Ukrainian history has been very symbolic. I'm going to mention a few characters from the history that have impacted me personally and I'm sure a lot of people who are trying to do something for Ukraine and beyond. So starting with the Queen of France, Anna, in 1032, and then she died in 1089, who was a daughter of Yaroslav the Wise and a great-grandmother. So are you ready? Great-grandmother in 30th generation of Great Britain's own Queen Elizabeth II. So there is a connection. connection. Also, another one, the Princess Olga, who was recognized for her reigning during the difficult times with Brevlyany tribe, and was given the title is Apostolos 600 years after her death. And of course, we have to mention just simply Ukrainian girl who was taken to Turkey and sold as a slave at the market in the Ottoman Empire. And she made it to the top as a Hürrem Sultan, the wife consort and advisor of the Turkish Sultan Suleyman the Magnificent in the first half of the 16th century. Of course, as a Ukrainian musician, I certainly wouldn't miss an opportunity to talk about music and muses, inspiring stories that ignited fantastic musical ideas in the world-renowned composer minds, but I'm sure it will happen in some of the other times. I, however, made one choice to feature a story about mentioning one very important name in Ukrainian music history. It is Maxim Berezovsky. For me, the name of this composer, singer, and scholar is representative the essence of Ukrainian spirit, talent, intellect, and dedication. He was born in Ukrainian Glukhov. Berezovsky studied at the Rozumovsky Academy, which, based on the philanthropical ideas, gave him a green light into the world of music, where he made incredible accomplishments. where he made incredible accomplishments. By the way, we all remember Beethoven's grateful dedication in his several quartets to the next generation of Rozumovsky, Kirillov shortly after. One of Berezovsky's professional highlights was achieving a title of the faculty member of Bologna Academy of the Arts in 1771, where his name was placed next to that of Mozart's. Just like the latter, Berezovsky lived a short but fruitful life, performing, researching, mentoring, and creating musical heritage for us to appreciate. And I would like to share one of the excerpts for one of my favorite pieces, the beautiful, profound, and almost philosophical choral concerto. It is an a cappella genre Berezovsky, along with his colleague Artemi Vadel, established and gave as an inspiration for the further generation of composers to continue to develop. So please, let's take a short listen to it. 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Before I conclude my presentation, so I would like to say that it was the Crescetti Choir, which has a lot of friends of mine in it. I hope you enjoyed their performance. The slideshow that we presented featured pictures of Jerome Strauss, who is the Westchester County, New York photographer, who specializes in aerial image and galleries and was published three times in the New Yorker magazine. And he graciously allowed me to use his work, which I'm thankful for. So whether being born into a royal family or in a small village, whether a man or a woman, the true spirit powered by Ukrainian soul will always find its place under the psalm fortified by Ukrainian soul will always find its place under the salt fortified by Ukrainian soul and its talent, its hard work, skill, and perseverance. Thirsty for knowledge and learning, Ukrainians of all generations don't know what laziness is. Their vision and creativity, conceptual way of thinking, and their respect for the time and their land paved their path to succeeding in what's right for them. And I just want to mention that this year, I will welcome 15 Ukrainian musicians during my festival music in the Alps in Bad Gostein from August 5th through August 19th. And this spring of 2022, during this time, they have lost their homes. But it doesn't stop them to move forward. They are talented, they are skillful, they are open-minded and confident in their life purpose. And they know what they want from life and they really want to succeed just like many of their predecessors. So thank you so much for having me today with you. Many, many thanks, Irina, for this wonderful presentation. And I'm so thrilled by these fantastic churches in this Ukrainian baroque style. And the colors and the golden design, it's so impressive. And also the pictures your friend made with drones. So drones can also be used by that way. Exactly, yes. There is another very famous monastery in Kiev. The Austrian word is Heiliges Maria Himmelfahrt Kloster. How do you call that? I'm not sure what would be the name that we use for that. Do you know where it is? It's also famous because of the caves. The caves where the... Lavra. Kyiv-O where the... Lavra. Kyiv-Opatrylska-Lavra? Lavra. This is exactly where the Nestor, as Olena mentioned, the Nestor road is povist. Ah, yes, yes. Exactly. And it's one of those not many places in Europe that has actual functioning caves there that you can go there was the visit because Rainer Maria Rilke the so famous and important poet he was so much impressed by this monastery that he wrote about his this in his famous collection book of hours and I just read this in German. He wrote about the monks. Yes. Meaning the monks did not like the sounds and the noisy environment. So more and more they got hidden in the caves to be by themselves and with themselves. That's what Rainer Maria Rilke wrote about this monastery in Kiev. Can I add a little bit? Yeah. As I said, the Chernihiv is a very ancient city. We have the Ilinska church near the Antoniev caves and these caves by the legend have the way to the Lavra, to the Kievan caves. So we have caves too in Chernihiv. Okay. Thank you. Thanks, Irina. Thanks so much. Thank you for having me, Karin. And now I'm going to switch to you, dear Sofia. You are today's specialist for the traditional clothes of the Ukrainian people. You also tell us something about the Cossacks that were very important for part of the history to rule the country. Hetmanat, that's what we say. We also use this word Hetman. Hetmanat, that's what we say. You also have to say... Yeah, we also use this word Hetman. Hetman, yes. So it's up to you now. Now, because of the Russian war, a lot of Ukrainians must move abroad. And, for example, when Ukrainians come to Austria and they heard German language they're thinking that yeah because languages are totally different but today I would like to say how we're connected our history for example Ukrainian Kulchitsky, firstly it's Ukrainian Cossack translator, polyglot, he's considered the author of Vani's Coffee Recipe. And Yuri Kulchitsky was born at 60-40 years in Lviv region in village Kulchitsky in orthodox family just in noble family. And it was really very intelligent man, translator and polyglot. He know more than, totally he know seven languages and it was, yeah sure, Ukrainian, Polish, Hungarian, Romanian, Serbian, Turkish and sure German. And he during one of the battle in Zaporizhzhya Siege he was taken prisoner by the Turks. So he had a lot of time to learn Turkish language. And why Yuri Kulchitski is a hero of the Battle of Vienna? It's because it was a horrible battle because when Turkish Ottoman Empire attack of Vienna, Turkish had 200,000 Turkish soldiers against 16,000 Austrian officers. So it was bad balance unfortunately And Yuri Kulchitsky, he took national Turkish clothes and he said, no there is plan and then send this I sent a letter of request for help to the Austrian Emperor Leopold I and he's from the Vyv is he from the Vyv region from village culture because this was the capital of Galicia which was part of the Austrian-Hungarian monarchy so we also have a history very close history that also binds us together. Ukrainian Cossacks played a crucial role in liberating Vienna from Turkish siege. And a lot of Ukrainian Cossacks gave away the most important things which they had. It was their lives. And also in Vienna is one of the monuments in Vienna. And it's on Leopold's Berg. It's one of monument of Ukrainian Cossacks and also also in Vienna is Kulchitskyi Gase. It's at a four district in Vienna also and when for our happy And when for our happy Austrian city Vienna was saved, then Yuri Kulchitsky was awarded a silver medal, one of of good houses in Vienna. And then he had a title of imperial translator. But nobody know what they should do with 300 bags with no green beans. And sure, now we all we know and we drink it every day and it's coffee. And sure, now we all we know and we drink it every day and it's coffee. And sure, Yuri Kulchitskiy live a lot of time in Turkey because he was taken prisoner. And he know what he can do with this product. And he decides that I would like to open a coffee shop in Vienna. But when Austrians tried coffee, they didn't like it, it was just black water and it doesn't had a good taste and then he tried to bring a bit sugar and milk. So and now it means Vienna coffee, and he originally he made this recital. So I have to go to Kolchitsky Gasse in one of my next days to say thank you to him. I'm addicted to coffee. So Sofia, you have such a wonderful dress and this is for sure very typical for Ukrainian handicraft. In every region we have different ornaments. It's classical versions which had just red and black, it's originally colors and then sure in every region we have different different styles and techniques and a lot a lot a lot of of Ukrainian costumes and it's in May and we are very proud about our culture and now a lot of Ukrainians come to Austria, Italy and also so I'm pretty much sure that you already said already yeah so this cotton isn't just when people respect it and just take and are there only few persons who are able to make this stitching is is is it handmade or or how is this produced sure it always was handmade my dress is handmade but it's really it's huge work just every ever these flowers it's half an hour it's only one flower and it needs a lot a lot of time to make it and and one flower and it's really it needs a lot a lot of time yeah and um looking back in the ukrainian history um there were people with many many peasants living on the countryside working on the land so for sure also this tradition of of of clothes comes from that and that's the reason why it is still so uh so important right yeah just uh we we talked about it and it's not just national costumes just every um every ornament have its meaning. It's like a genetic Ukrainian code. It's a national code. It has all meaning. For example, this is like everyday clothes, but this is for a party. Yes, we tell that Chervonay to Lyubov, Chernyy to Zhuba. And it means that red color is for love and black for sad. My grandma when she saw a lot of different vyshvankas she knew what does it mean that For example, this flower will protect you. This red rhomb, it's just your quick flower, you will find your man, your love. And it's not just, I would like to make this flower. It has a huge, important scent. So the symbolism is really great and also this kind of protection that it gives you. And I can understand that those clothes are very, very important for you to have them here and also to wear them here. And it's a great honor for me to see you here in these dresses and in your traditional clothes, really. And Sofia, you have something also here. Yeah, I also took one. It's a Petrikyivka painting. It comes from Dnipro region and it's central, it's east central city in Ukraine. So originally it comes from Dnip symbols and it's our culture. Thank you. Okay, ladies, it's one o'clock in the afternoon and I'm going to close this wonderful round. It's one hour hour just like a second with you three ladies. But I want to close with a question to each of you. And with the question, what do you want the world to know about your country of course there are many many things but maybe there is one thought that means a lot to you or that seems to be one of the most important or the most important what do you want the world to know about Ukraine? Olena. It's such a great topic. The one thing I want to tell to the world that we are a great, strong country. We will stand all bad things which happened now to us, but we really need the world's support. So please support Ukraine, support Ukrainian people, and we will stand together. Thank you. Leah? Sure. The most important thing which every person, every human, it's family. And now, when war starts, all country feel like one huge family. And now it's not important from which city, from which part I come. Just when I saw this horrible news, for me it's the same in which village it happens. And now I feel really that we are one huge family. Just every Ukrainian is trying to help. How they can do this? Women are making eating for soldiers. Just every person is making what they can. just who just every person making what what they can and i hope uh it's it will be stay always and i'm i'm waiting for for good news when when my dad will call and sophia where is ended where is the end? Irina? I know that the world is helping. Most of the world is on our side. And I would like to speak to those who are still hesitating whether to help us or not, whether to take the other side. I would like them to know that Ukrainian people are really hardworking. who are still hesitating whether to help us or not, whether to take the other side. I would like them to know that Ukrainian people are really hardworking, they're very respectful, and they are grateful. So please don't hesitate, be with us, and because we share same values. So thank you so much. Spasivi, Olena. Danke. Spasivi, Sofia. Alles klar. Spasivi, Irina. Danke. Geschätzte Damen und Herren, ich verabschiede mich von Ihnen jetzt auch hier nach dieser wunderbaren Sendung mit diesen drei wunderbaren Damen. Ich wünsche Ihnen noch einen guten Tag und bis zum nächsten Mal. Auf Wiedersehen.